tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post170430735914834660..comments2023-10-17T02:52:22.037-07:00Comments on David's blog: Political update for September, 2009 - you are still all crazyDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17038118012770250140noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-6933109188889709702009-09-22T18:21:07.044-07:002009-09-22T18:21:07.044-07:00Ooookay, I see I have to post rules about standard...Ooookay, I see I have to post rules about standards for commenting, and, yes, it would make a funny movie.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038118012770250140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-78666422765923973022009-09-22T17:49:55.049-07:002009-09-22T17:49:55.049-07:00I'll go back in time to observe you lose your ...I'll go back in time to observe you lose your virginity....multiple lifetimes worth of humor I'm sure.<br />-DonDonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-2277017604954821102009-09-22T14:58:00.428-07:002009-09-22T14:58:00.428-07:00First prize - I let you use my time machine for a ...First prize - I let you use my time machine for a week - but remember, no changing history. Second prize is I go back in time and prevent your parents from meeting. I'd go for first prize if I were you.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038118012770250140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-80097183895037995832009-09-22T14:09:40.833-07:002009-09-22T14:09:40.833-07:00Yeah, but only by people who know me really well.
...Yeah, but only by people who know me really well.<br /><br />Whta's the prize for comment of the year...other than the obvious prestige?<br />-DonDonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-65832520926630818562009-09-22T13:29:16.122-07:002009-09-22T13:29:16.122-07:00Now that was funny. You are trying for the best co...Now that was funny. You are trying for the best comment award at the end of the year, obviously.<br /><br />And you have been called worse.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038118012770250140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-10730776009161135952009-09-22T13:21:37.421-07:002009-09-22T13:21:37.421-07:00BTW- What's up with the "Thanks for your ...BTW- What's up with the "Thanks for your comment"BS?????<br /> <br />Fair or not I KNOW what you really meant was "Thanks for the comment, Boy....you f****ng kraut mick bastard shyster.<br />-DonDonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-52456200287353213812009-09-22T10:24:26.387-07:002009-09-22T10:24:26.387-07:00It boils down simply; if is racist to vote against...It boils down simply; if is racist to vote against someone because of skin color then it is racist to vote for someone because of skin color.<br />And, in my book, thta means anyone celebrating (or denigrating) our first black president is evidencing a racialist view.<br />-DonDonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-87862998336029180152009-09-22T10:07:36.154-07:002009-09-22T10:07:36.154-07:00Well, routinely, 85-90% of blacks vote Democratic ...Well, routinely, 85-90% of blacks vote Democratic in the presidential elections, so I can't accept that. I would expect those who voted against him were conservatives.<br /><br />Mind experiment - suppose their could have been an election in 1940 in Europe - Churchill or Hitler? Don't you think that close to 100% of Jews would have voted for Churchill. Prejudice, or self-interest?<br /><br />The point is not that McCain is analagous to Hitler and Obama to Churchill, but that often when ethnic groups vote for political reasons it seems like they are voting for racial ones.<br /><br />A better test of black racism would be the same example I used in the blog. Run Clarence Thomas as a Democrat, and let's say, for arguments sake, John Kerry to the Republicans. I think you would see significant amounts of blacks vote for Kerry, as opposed to the black candidate, and significant amounts of whites, certainly conservatives, vote for Thomas, as opposed to the white candidate. <br /><br />Also, from past discussions, I know you don't accept past oppression as validly motivating people in the present. I don't think it is that simple, and would expect minorities, who have not long had a share in power, to be more concerned with ethnicity than majority. I'm not suggesting that I think they should vote along those lines, but I do understand it.<br /><br />Incidentally, a poll last year indicated that 76 percent of Americans believed America was "ready" for a black president. However, the percentage of whites who thought so was substantial higher than blacks who thought so -78% to 69%. It is a little different than asking if "they" would vote for a black candidate, but still an interesting result.<br /><br />I disagree with both you and Bear. While prejudice exists and some people will vote color (I know a couple), most people's ideological prejudices are much greater than there color prejudices in this time and place.<br />Thanks for your comment.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038118012770250140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-73662872092891753522009-09-22T09:41:41.398-07:002009-09-22T09:41:41.398-07:00I think that the best evidence of continuing racis...I think that the best evidence of continuing racism in this country is the fact that 95% of blacks voted for Obama.<br />-DonDonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-32535438430179085002009-09-21T14:51:36.397-07:002009-09-21T14:51:36.397-07:00Great intelligence and sharp observance? Who are y...Great intelligence and sharp observance? Who are you and what have you done with my friend, Bear?<br /><br />Well, I might just be biased about racial bias, but that would tend to mean I can't see it, so . . .<br /><br />I actually think Obama called this one pretty fair on Sunday. There are some people judging him on the color of his skin, both for and against him, but most are not. <br /><br />I see now the same basic hate conservatives had for Clinton and liberals had for Bush. Political hate in America is much stronger than ethnic hate for most people. I would say ten times as many people hate politicians because of their ideology than because of ethnicity. No way ever to prove it, but if Obama became a conservative overnight, you would find conservatives overwhelmingly supporting him and calling the fleeing liberals racist. Just the way it works. If it wasn't so, they all wouldn't think Clarence Thomas was so wonderful, but he is about their favorite political figure.<br /><br />The other thing that might affect the strength about anti-Obama feelings as opposed to the last two presidents (if you are right) is that, in my judgment, at least, Obama has moved further in a political direction (left, in his case) than either Bush or Clinton did and it makes conservatives really unhappy. Reagan, I'm sure you recall, made liberals (and I was one at the time) insane. No one cared he was Irish or even divorced (remember when people used to care about that?)<br /><br />Thanks for commenting and peace be unto you.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038118012770250140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33957555.post-78061665968017344972009-09-21T13:00:27.631-07:002009-09-21T13:00:27.631-07:00It's good to have you back. You write with gre...It's good to have you back. You write with great intelligence and sharp observance of the media's biases, but your general good nature and optimistic view of people makes it hard for you to see hate for what it is. There is, without doubt, an extra layer to the intense anger in the socio-political environment and it is the "otherness" of our President. Middle of the country, white America is antagonized in a way I haven't seen before. The closest in my lifetime is the anger of blacks in the sixties, and I think the common denominator is the race card. Nothing about this is an excuse for the political beliefs of either side, just the sad, ugly truth about ourselves. Interesting interview with Dave Matthews (from South Africa) about the racism he sees in America. Sometimes foreigners see us better than we see ourselves.Bearnoreply@blogger.com