Sunday, September 08, 2013

Syria

This is a post on our supposedly imminent attack on Syria.It is rare I find a political matter which is on so many people's lips. In the past week at least several friends, a couple of whom I would never expect to ask me what I thought about some political  topic, asked me what I thought. Whatever congress decides, I think we are going to attack. Despite the fact that Pres. Obama can't seem to get any backing from the west other than France (about fricking time, but of course on the WRONG one.)

To do anything short of some kind of physical attack might be too embarrassing for the president to consider. Somehow I can't imagine we are going to hear him say - well, congress doesn't want it, the people of the United States don't, and very few of our allies do - so let's just forget it. And, if it's only a few shots over the bow, that would be more of a cause for laughter than to say he reconsidered. Hence, there will be an attack. The question is, in doing so, will he cause further dissension in our country and, despite all the clamor about how Pres. Bush hurt our national prestige, lower that too.

There is little doubt that this president feels he can pretty much do what he wants regardless of what a majority or congress thinks because, one, he has done it before (e.g., declaring congress in recess, attacking and then continuing to attack Libya, the health care reform) there are enough people, not to mention the media, who agree with him in general to give him the political cover he needs. And once the military goes into action and the flag is up, many citizens rally to it. That might be sufficient. As even McCain says, boots on the ground would mean impeachment, but I don't think he has any intention of that.

Don't do it. I'll jump to the conclusion first. I think striking Syria is a mistake for the reasons given below. I broke this up into sections, which do not follow a formal plan so much as just covering my thoughts:

Perspectives and biases: I like to know every author's biases and general perspectives because I find it helps me interpret their work. Therefore, I often start my own opinions that way. Generally speaking, I am more a hawk than a dove. Even when a bleeding heart liberal in my youth, I was one. I was too young when Vietnam was happening - a teenager when it ended - to have an opinion. But, from the 80s on I have been fairly hawkish.

But, being a hawk doesn't mean that I just want us to get into fights for the heck of it or that I think we should involve ourselves in military matters that are not our own concern or that I agree with every action we take. I was no! on Panama, for example and no! on Libya. I've never been in a war, but I have read more than enough from those who have been to know it is literally hell on earth and no reasonable person should seek it or glorify in it. I am no Theodore Roosevelt believing that our country will grow weak if didn't go to war every once in a while.    

When I say I am a hawk I mostly mean that I believe we should have the best military on earth, that we should spend more on it than any other country, that other nations and groups should fear getting into military contests or our allies, but that we should use this power reluctantly only when necessary to defend ourselves, our allies and occasionally, when we can stop genocide or other horrific mass murders. If we do, it should be done as quickly as possible, foregoing nation building unless a country wants to be re-built and ultimately pay or side with us on account of it (and how likely is that right now).  J. Q. Adams was mostly right that we shouldn't go about the earth seeking monsters to destroy - but like most policies, there's also an inexpressible rule of reason and a vague balancing of values. In other words, sometimes his statement is not right. Were he able to know the killing power of modern technology, he might agree today that those countries that can do something about genocide or monstrous behavior should not sit idly by when the worst people on earth seek to wipe out or destroy others for their own personal gain or sheer insanity.

And, hawk or not, we all know that having the most powerful military on earth doesn't make a country omnipotent or invulnerable. Our involvement in war can cripple us in many ways. Our punch is also much stronger than our chin, as 9/11 showed. And, as Muhammad Ali once put it (I think it was him, but can't find a quote online), even a baby can hurt you if it puts its finger in your eye. Maybe it was Bruce Lee. Anyway, I learned that myself when a wee lad, having tormented my little brother one time too many.  He told me that I had to sleep sometime and he was right. Let's just say it was a painful lesson and if I told it in detail, male readers would be crossing their legs involuntarily.

Sure, if we put our might behind it, no country on earth could withstand us save probably Russia and China because of their own atomic weapons, military might and geographical size, ensuring that even a victory for us would be pyrrhic at best.  But, leaving them aside, just because a country can't withstand us militarily doesn't mean that we can rebuild their cultures the way we want. We can't stop people from murdering each other short of a type of tyranny and control that mirrors those dictators we are so fervently opposed to. No solution to the internecine Islamic hatred between Shia and Sunni can be had by bombing or shooting, unless one side wins overwhelmingly, and that also seems too unlikely. The only way it ends is with a long period of enlightenment such as the west underwent or one side completely or almost completely destroying the other.

Being a hawk also includes wanting congress to declare war

The constitution makes it clear who declares war - Congress. Period. Amen. It has been pretty much accepted from day one though the present that the president, by virtue of being the military leader of a sovereign nation, has the power and duty to defend the country in case of attack. It would be idiotic to think you needed to wait for congress to do so before we acted in that manner. But, because the constitution names the president as commander and chief of the military (not us civilians, as some people seem to think) and in times of war, the state militias, there has been a debate as to just where the line is. Few people think FDR's secret help to Britain was crossing the line (but see, e.g., http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html). But, other decisions to go to or incite war (and, attempts to call military actions other than war are reprehensible) were dicier. So, congress passed a law near the end of the Vietnam War which they thought might help. It attempted to share power between the executive and congress, with congress having the final word. They gave the president power to act in certain circumstances for a little while before he had to come to congress and get permission. No president, including Nixon, who vetoed it only to see his veto overridden, has agreed it is constitutional. But, to some degree they have abided by it. Basically, a president has to notify congress within 48 hours of a conflict (which today means 47 hours, 59 minutes and some seconds after the first tweet from a combatant or witness goes around the world) has 60 days to act unilaterally. If not approved they have another 30 more days to withdraw, which, if just an air war, should really mean instantly.

Many in congress don't like it either because they feel it should be, absent self defense, totally congress's call. I support that. Either we trust congress for this (not that they are generally trustworthy) or we amend.  But, as Senator Paul pointed out the other day in committee, the WPA does not give the president carte blanche to attack other countries. It only allows him to act if congress declares war, he has some type of statutory authority, or if he is defending the nation. With Libya none of those three were present and eventually, the Republican dominated house censored the president for his violation. That is almost forgotten now.  And we know that Obama's not going to care if he gets dragged into a much longer war than he expected. Remember, he said Libya would only be a few days.

Thus, in my opinion, short of a declaration of war or similar statutory undertaking by congress, if Pres. Obama goes to war with Syria at all - it is a constitutional violation. I ask any American who thinks it is okay because he trusts or likes Obama, how he will feel when it is done by a President he or she does not support?

Gas attacks do not legally justify this act by America under international law

I cannot find a single article on Syria or politician who will tell you the following. This entire adventure is based upon a U.N. protocol that is being grossly misinterpreted. The protocol in question is the  Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or Other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare, was initially signed in Geneva, Switzerland in 1925, five years after WWI and its horrific use of poison gas ended. John Kerry likes to say almost 100 years ago, an exaggeration. Although I guess it is the closest large rounded number we would not say that an 88 year old is almost 100. It is just the typical political hyperbole. Here are the important points with respect to Syria.

You can easily find this online. It is a protocol which countries have to sign onto.  It is not self executing and it does not apply to any country that does not sign. In its opening clauses it states that it is the general opinion of the world that the use of poisonous gas is condemned by the civilized world, that it has been prohibited in many treaties and that the protocol is made to "the end" that the "prohibition shall be universally accepted." Note, it does not say that it is universally accepted or that this is some blanket prohibition against all poison gas or bacterial warfare in general.   

Syria is one of the signatories (to join, a country signs and deposits it in France). But, does that mean that America or even United Nations forces is justified in attacking Syria under this protocol? No. Here's why.  Read the important part of the text:

"That the High Contracting Parties, so far as they are not already Parties to Treaties prohibiting such use, accept this prohibition, agree to extend this prohibition to the use of bacteriological methods of warfare and agree to be bound as between themselves according to the terms of this declaration.

The High Contracting Parties will exert every effort to induce other States to accede to the present Protocol. . . ."

They are "bound as between themselves" and they will try and induce other states to accede to it. This means two things to me. First, there is no general international law forbidding the use of chemical weapons, only this voluntarily assumed protocol. If there was a general sort of international or customary international law, why would treaties or a protocol be necessary at all? Second, the parties "agree to be bound as between themselves," not as between themselves and the world or non-signatories. Certainly not as between themselves and their own citizens. The Syrian rebels, whatever you think of them, are not signatories. Only the Syrian nation is recognized as a member and is bound as a signatory. 

There were enough deficiencies with it that a Chemical Weapons Convention was brought about in the 1990s. Almost every country in the world signed and ratified it. It has a much broader mandate - the signatory can't make, store or use chemical weapons. However, one of the very few countries which didn't sign and ratify it is Syria.  Again, why pretend that it is important countries sign if we pretend they are bound when they don't?

Don't go thinking I'm pro poison gas. There's a good reason it is generally agreed upon in the world that it should not be used. I'm all for its abolition. I don't want any country using it (it can't be well controlled as Syria has shown) any more than I want them using the atom bomb. But, that is not the same as saying that a U.N. protocol for forbids it or that Syria has agreed to forego it.

If you want to say here, look, international law is what the powers that be who can enforce their will say it at any given time, then fine. Say that. And, so long as congress, not the president, declares war on our account, that's acceptable too, though I think it a bad idea. But, we don't say that. We pretend that there is international law Syria is boycotting.

But, when it comes to actual law either the U.N. 1925 protocol forbids Syria from using these weapons against its own people or it doesn't. And, it doesn't. Either Syria has signed the Chemical Weapons Convention, or it hasn't. And it hasn't.

When I hear John Kerry up there waffling about international law, pulling the wool over people's eyes, it makes me mad. Because when we make believe about international law, we weaken its importance overall.

Encouraging Iran

One of the things Kerry insists on is that if we don't attack, we encourage Iran. I don't really see it that way. Let's presume they are building a bomb. I don't know that, but presume it for the moment. If we attack Syria, which really can't defend itself against us, wouldn't that tend to make Iran think it better build a bomb as fast as possible so that they have the power of atomic blackmail to call upon? It got respect for North Korea. You might argue that they are going to build one no matter what, but then you also eviscerate Kerry's argument.

John Kerry Speaking of the Secretary of State, I make no bones about it, he has long been one of my least favorite politicians. On the right, only Newt Gingrich matches him in my low estimation. Although they have different aspects to them, both shine in hubris, backstabbing, overt partisanship and dishonesty departments.  As bad a president as I thought George Bush to be, I could not consider voting for Kerry in 2004, even though I thought his being "swift-boated" was reprehensible too. I generally don't trust Kerry and though I hardly think he is evil or anti-American, but I would prefer if he wasn't in government at all.  As bad a president as I think Obama is, given the choice only between him and Kerry, I'd prefer Obama. And that is a pretty low standard. While I do not approve of ad hominem arguments to debate actual points, when the subject is the speaker himself, I have no problem with characterizing individuals by appraising their character or credibility, etc.

I have listened to Kerry for over a week now on this topic. He has a resonant, unique and powerful voice and commands attention when he speaks. So what? So did Hitler and Mussolini. Even with Kerry, of course, the comparison to them ends there. But, everything he says seems sly to me or a given with a wink or promise to back it up later or is based on secret information. I listened to his initial speech regarding Syria's use of chemical weapons and he was so emphatic that it sounded so much more convincing than General Powell's disreputable speech at the U.N. to promote the war against Iraq. Then I remembered that it was Kerry speaking and thought about it again. There were no facts, just conclusions.  

Asked in the Senate if he could guarantee the outcome if we attacked, he admitted no, he couldn't. But, he couldn't leave it at that. He said if we don't go, he guaranteed it would be done again by Syria. Perhaps he has secret wiretaps of Assad saying, If the U.S. backs off we will use these weapons again. I wouldn't know. But, even that does not permit a guarantee it will be done, just the likelihood. No one can guarantee that. Why couldn't he merely say, we have a lot of evidence it would get worse if we do not punish the behavior? Because he is Kerry. And he has the hubris of Agamemnon.

Kerry said today that a political solution is required in Syria. I don't think so. While there have been political solutions in the middle east, they are rare. It seems that there is relative peace only when one side wins outright. That might lead to tyranny, but, unfortunately, it seems to be the way things work over there. This will be over when Assad is dead or jailed and some group, possibly a jihadist one, fights its way to the top, or, Assad prevails, destroying and intimidating his enemies. An international force coming in to do the job, as in Libya, is also a possibility, but would probably require another foolish chemical attack.

Putin says Kerry is a liar. Perhaps it is only national chauvinism right now prevents me from taking Putin's word over Kerry's. I actually trust him less because he does not even remotely have U.S. interests at heart and routinely backs the bad guys in the world.  Us mere mortals do not get to see the evidence Kerry says he has. However, whatever that evidence is, it does not seem to have particularly persuaded all that many congresspersons. Makes you wonder. While it seems hard to believe that Syria, which is virtually an outlaw nation with respect to chemical weapons has not used them, we all know the power of the media and our government to persuade us of the certainty of events that just aren't so. We saw that at the beginning of the Zimmerman case recently. This is part of the problem when we have politicians in power we just can't trust.

Rand Paul

Even as Kerry managed to sink lower in my estimation during this debate, Sen. Paul rose in it. I am not a convinced supporter, though I think right now he is the most interesting potential presidential candidate. I was pleased to see that he appeared measured and reasonable. More, he made arguments rather than used hyperbole. He seems to have actually read not only the constitution but the war powers act. I have hopes he might have actually read the relevant U.N. protocol and convention too but asking a Senator to read something for a few minutes is probably not very reasonable. I was encouraged he has sought to clarify the war powers of the president. But that has been tabled by the foreign affairs committee he sits on for now (which might mean forever or a long time).

This debate might help Paul as he moves towards 2016. It's a long way away, of course, and it might be long forgotten by 2015. And, there are still some things I am not in love with about him. I once listened to him argue against a proposed bill in the Senate in a way I thought dishonest, pretending it threatened acts that were expressly prohibited. Nor am I sure he will be able to hold off the religious mania that grasps the GOP every presidential election season. There's time to determine all that though.

But, I liked what I saw in this debate.

A few quickies - This is getting longish, so I'll wrap it up.

WWII paradigm rules

It is not surprising that past experience colors what we do now, hoping not to repeat history. The experiences in the run ups to WWII, now over 70 years in the past, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan still have an enormous effect on us.  Munich and the fear of encouragement through appeasement is brought up again and again. Countering that is the sobering fear of the endless morass and the failure of nation building, such as in the latter wars.

Watch Obama, Boehner and Pelosi

Want to see something funny? Recently Pres. Obama was recently flanked by Boehner and Pelosi, both who are supporting him with respect to Syria. But, as Obama did a What me worry? Boehner had a ever changing look of contempt, suspicion and discomfort on his face. Pelosi had a frozen look that looked like it was the product of more than a little surgery. It was just weird. But funny. The video was funnier but this photo is the best I can do.
 
 

Partisanship

Anyone who ever reads my political posts knows how I feel about mindless partisanship. Sometimes it seems like that is all I care about. I'm happy to say that so far, though you cannot expect to avoid it altogether, there has been a lot less of it in debating this issue than is common. Congressmen, whatever they decide, actually seem to be thinking about it.  That could disappear in a moment particularly if it seems to mean advantage to one party or the other. But, for right now, it's nice to see.

Saturday, August 24, 2013

Sport lists


I don't spend a lot of time on sports in this blog because sports has not been a big part of my adult life. But, once in a while, why not? Here are some top ten lists.  I can allow people a little argument, but after a week or so I am going to make these lists official and binding on everyone in the world unless you can change my mind. The opinions are mine, but the stats, of course, I had to look up.

Top twenty NFL Quarterbacks

I'm considering retired players only to avoid dealing with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers (who I sometimes call Aaron Brown. I know, I know) and Drew Brees, all who would fit in her somewhere. My opinion here is not based on Super Bowls, though winning championships is worth something, but who was the most talented and accomplished in my opinion.

Historic (Started watching football in the mid-60s and Unitas and Starr are the first QBs I remember).

1. Steve Young - I know this will be controversial so I'll defend it a bit. First, he spent the first seven years of his career when he would have the most energy and be most uninjured wasting it in the USFL, playing in Tampa and then sitting behind Joe Montana, also one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. They should have traded one of them. If so, they might have would have won even more championships because both couldn't play at the same time and they could have gotten some great talent with a trade. I would have traded Montana and there would be no disputing my putting Young first at all. Even when he got a rare chance to step in and play in SF he could be awesome. I still remember in his first year when he came in for an injured Montana and threw 4 touchdowns like he had been starting for years. But, in the seven years that it was his show (when he was healthy) he won the Super Bowl, won the passing title 4 times (only a few others have done that), set the standard for being the highest rated quarterback - is still the highest rated of all retired QB's and still remains no. 3 overall despite the fact that it is so much easier now that no one is even allowed to frown or think mean thoughts about the QB when they tackle him.  He is also, and I think this is sometimes overlooked about him, the no. 3 rushing QB of all time (and the two ahead of him, Vick and Cunningham, cannot begin to compete with him overall). He also rushed for more TDs than any other QB. Many other records but that is for Wikipedia. He did all this despite being injured over and over including multiple concussions.  For what it is worth, though I don't factor it in, I also always thought he had a great attitude, being competitive, but keeping it in perspective.

2. Dan Marino - Just nicked by Young. He is probably even a better passer, although he could not run to save his life. His arm was incredibly quick, powerful and accurate.

3. Dan Fouts  - And if Marino wasn't the greatest passer, then it might have been Fouts. I wonder what would have happened if he played on a really good team.

4. Sonny Jurgenson - A personal favorite. He could pass, run, everything. But, passing was his forte and still at age 40, even splitting time, he won the passing title.  

5. Joe Montana - He was a great QB and I need say nothing more about him, such is his fame. I know many people think he was the best and I'm not knocking him at all by placing him 5th. I just think the other four were better.

6. Johnny Unitas - He was the greatest for many years and some would put him at the top given the rigor of the game then and his great consistency.

7. Bart Starr - Unitas' competition. He was the NFL's Russell to Unitas' Chamberlain.

8. John Elway - Some surveys rank him first. He had an amazing ability to come back and went to the Super Bowl, not always with the best team, repeatedly.

9. Brett Favre - Probably as good as Elway and maybe better. You have to make choices and I just like Elway better. But there are those who think he is the best ever.

10. Len Dawson - Take away Namath's fame because he won the first Super Bowl for the AFL and Dawson is the greater of the two. But, Dawson won the big one the next year, in the last game for the AFL. His accuracy was incredible.

11. Roger Staubach - In his time, maybe the best for a few years.

12. Jim Kelly - If he could have won just once it would have been justice.

13. Fran Tarkenton  - My favorite scrambler and yet a great passer. Reminds me of Jurgenson a lot.

14. Kurt Warner - A great story, coming out of arena football. It's possible I might have him way too low.

15. Terry Bradshaw  - Not as talented as many others here, particularly as a passer, but much better than most. His clutch play, toughness and many rings earn his entry here.

16. Troy Aikman - He seems forgotten now in the era of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, but he was in their league.

17. Daryle Lamonica - Lamonica was probably my favorite quarterback, along with Dawson, back in the 60s, and not just because of the Heidi game (if you don't know what that means, look it up, as it somewhat changed television programming). He certainly had great receivers, but someone had to put the ball in their hands and great quarterbacks tend to have great receivers. He was very clutch. I always thought Oakland had a chance to win if he could get the ball.

18. Joe Theisman - Best known for what Lawrence Taylor did to his leg, but I thought a great player.

19. Joe Namath - I never liked Namath's game all that much, but you can't deny that he helped change football forever. He did not have great career stats, but did have a few outrageous years. Still, he helped make the NFL what is by winning that first Super Bowl for the AFL in 69, famously guaranteeing it before the game. I am also influenced by Bill Walsh's and Don Shula's high opinion of him because if I could have anyone advise me on drafting a QB, they'd be up there (I know Walsh is dead - leave me alone).

20. Bob Griese - The Dolphins were arguably the two greatest pro team of the 1970s and Griese was their guy except when injured.  He was there for their two great Super Bowl years, though I suppose you could argue Mrs. Griese could have successfully quarterbacked them those years.

Sorry Warren Moon.  I'm sure others. Everyone can't be on the list.

Prehistoric times

1. Otto Graham

2. Y.A. Tittle

3. Norm Van Brocklin

4. Sammy Baugh

5. Sid Luckman

Top ten NBA centers to date

This includes active players, but only one makes the list.

1. Wilt Chamberlain - I know Russell won all those championships and Chamberlain just one.  Certainly being part of a championship team, and more so, many championships, means something.  I just find it a ridiculous contention though to suggest that it is the main factor though I hear that even from renowned commentators. However, it is a factor that is randomly applied only to some players. For example, after Russell, the player who won the most championships in the NBA is Sam Jones, who won 10. Certainly he was a very good player. I don't know if you would say he was great.  I don't think that anyone would say though that he was even remotely as good as Oscar Robertson, who won only one. Some other players who won multiple championships: Robert Horry, a very good, but certainly not a great player, won 7. John Salley, also a good player, won 4. Winning championships means that someone was on the best team, and perhaps was a big part of it, but it does not necessarily mean he was better than the next guy. You can wiki Chamberlain's stats. Arguably, he was the greatest player, relative to other players at the same position and at the same time, in the history of major pro sports. No one else has approached his personal dominance. His 100 points and his 55 rebounds in games just show how far ahead of others he was.  Other than his free throw shooting problems, he could do anything. He even once just decided to lead the league in assists, unheard of for a center, and just did it.

2. Bill Russell - All that being said about winning championships being overused, Russell is number 2 because it does mean something and winning 11 can't be ignored. Though he cannot compare with Chamberlain stats, he is arguably the second greatest rebounder in history and perhaps the greatest shot blocker - they didn't keep stats for it when he played. He certainly was the first great shot blocker and I can see him in my mind's eye coming across the lane to block a shot with incredibly grace and timing. He was not a great shooter by any stretch (his career free throw percentage is barely better than Chamberlain's and his field goal percentage nowhere near as good)  and that is the great difference between him and number 1.

3. Akeen Olajuwon -  Now it gets interesting. You know Russell and Chamberlain are at the top of the list. Who is next? I'd say that Olajuwon was. Physically, he was a phenomenon.  It seemed like he could jump twice in the time it took most other centers to jump once. He had no serious weaknesses.  Like many centers he was not a great free throw shooter, he could hit more than 7 in 10, so unlike with Russell, Chamberlain and many other great centers, it could not be automatic to foul him at the end of the game. Even a great big man cannot dominate these days to the degree Chamberlain or Russell did because so many other players are near their size or bigger now, if not as talented. So, his stats don't look like theirs, but for his time, his speed, jumping ability and all around play was remarkable. For some reason he was always listed as 7'0", but commentators regularly pointed out and he acknowledged that he was actually two inches shorter and not that big for a center. It didn't stop him from being a dominant rebounder and among the greatest shot blockers ever.  He is one of 4 players ever to have a quadruple double (4 stats in double figures).  He was clutch and it always seemed to me that he won the duels between the other big men when they matched up.

4. Kareem Abdul Jabbar - No doubt that many would say that Jabbar belongs in the top three and some would even argue no. 1 or 2, so awe inspiring are his stats. I put him just below it. He played a long time and in some categories he is the all-time career leader.  Other than the usual free throw shooting problem, he had no weaknesses. But, I do not think he was as great a leader, as great a rebounder or as great a shot blocker as he could have been.  But, he was one of the greatest scorers. The sky hook made him the last and probably greatest hook shot artist in pro basketball and when he was on, it was unstoppable.

5. Nate Thurmond - You may not have heard of him, as his career ended in the 70s and he is not really celebrated outside of San Francisco.  But, famous or not, putting him 5th is not really a tough call. The NBA recognized it in celebrating its 50th anniversary, named him as one of the 50 greatest players ever. Chamberlain and Jabbar recognized it, both saying he was the toughest defender they ever faced - which is saying a lot.  He was considered, after Russell, the greatest shot blocker of the 60s and 70s and though you can't measure it, many thought he set the best picks in NBA history. He played much of his career against Russell and Chamberlain, the two greatest centers ever and held his own better than anyone else.  He was the first man ever to make the quadruple double, including blocked shots, and he did it late in his career.  I like this story he tells about when Chamberlain and he played together in San Francisco and then Chamberlain was traded. Chamberlain took him aside and said that Thurmond shouldn't think Chamberlain was being traded because Thurmond was the better player. It was, Chamberlain said, because he was making $75,000 and Thurmond only $20,000. But, he was wrong, says Thurmond. He was only making $14,000.

6. Shaquille O'Neal - Another center who could not shoot fouls. But so what. He was so dominant in his time because of his physical size and prowess that with even a decent team he was close to unstoppable in the paint. No one could handle him there. Though 325 pounds he could also run and play the fast break. He's famous enough and recent enough that I will stop there. 

7. David Robinson - Robinson is not as famous as many of these other guys but he deserves to be here. He accomplished what he did despite missing what should have been his first two years while he served in the Navy. He is the third center with Thurmond and Olajuwan to achieve a quadruple double (though it is possible, maybe even likely that Chamberlain or Russell did it before they counted blocked shots). He is one of 5 players to score more than 70 points in a game. He is the only player other player than Jabbar to lead the league in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots (again, perhaps Chamberlain and Russell could have done it if they counted blocked shots and Olajuwon just missed doing it, finishing second in scoring once). Other than Jordan, he is the only player to win MVP, defensive player of the year and rookie of the year (again, Olajuwon just misses, as he was a rookie the same year Jordan was but got the next most votes) and was the only player ever to be in the top 5 in rebounding, blocks and steals in a year (guess who just missed?). And though no threat to be the league leader in free throw percentage, he was better than any other center on this list other than Moses Malone, making nearly 3/4s of his shots.

Tie 8 & 9. Moses Malone - Moses (who started in ABA) was not dramatic. But, he was dominantly effective. He was one of the greatest rebounders, third all time after Russell and Chamberlain, though they had far less competition. He was by far the greatest offensive rebounder in NBA history since they started counting.  He was the seventh highest scorer of all time, just missing the exclusive 30,000 point club by probably a quarter of a season, and averaged over 20 points a game over 20 years. He was a very tough defensive player, stealing by far more balls than any center other than Olajuwon, and at the same time, almost never fouled out, going over 1200 games straight at one point without doing so.

9. Elvin Hayes - I couldn't choose between Malone and Hayes. It is actually eerie how close some of their stats match up. Hayes came along when Jabbar did and was overshadowed by him. But, he was a great player and excelled in almost every category.  He  is ranked 8th all time in scoring (just barely above Malone's NBA total), number 5 in rebounds (just below Malone's NBA total), 21st in block shots per game, but it has to be recognized that they did not count them his first five years when he was visibly in his prime and he was much shorter (only 6' 9") than virtually every other player ahead of him on the list.

10. Tim Duncan - This was the tough one. I had to leave out Bob Lanier, Dave Cowens, Wes Unseld, Willis Reed among a few others.  Arguably he is a center/forward, but I think that is only because he played next to Robinson for years and they had to call him something else.  I would say he is really a center. They are probably the best all time twin towers.  Some would argue that the quiet Mr. Duncan was even better than his taller teammate. He is among the all-time leaders in almost every category you would think likely for a center. Among active players, he is the no. 1 career leader and no. 2 per game leader in blocked shots;  the no. 2 leader in both career and per game rebounds, and no. 6 career and no. 10 per game leader in scoring.  Anyway, you get it, great player.

I'm going to perplex some with this, but I think George Mikan is overrated because he was the first great center.  I also was not a big Bill Walton fan. But they are in the top 15 or 20. Of course, as men my age tend to agree, Ralph Sampson could possibly have been the best of them and we were all disappointed he didn't make it. I do think it was mostly because of injuries, but, such is life.

Ten best athletes turned actors

Lots of them make the cross-over, but these were the most accomplished.

1 - O. J. Simpson - Okay, he's a murderer. Most of us think so. But, he is also one of the top running backs of all time.  I didn't say these guys were great actors. His best stuff he did, The Naked Gun series.

2 - Jim Brown - Well, maybe Jim Brown was a better running back than O. J. but he was certainly a better actor. The Dirty Dozen, 100 Rifles and Ice Station Zebra were his most famous movies, I think, but he acted in tv and film since I was a little kid right up until a few years ago.

3. Bruce Jenner -  I know, it wasn't much, but he did have a career. He even starred on CHIPS  for just a little while.

4. Chuck Norris. Chuck was the real deal (and seemingly a really nice guy).  He competed in the 60s up into the early 70s. Accurate martial arts fighting records are difficult to obtain for back then and I have read an interesting analysis indicating that he lost more than he claims in his biography, although he lost to top competitors, and that he did not win quite all the championships he claims. Nevertheless, he did win a lot of championships and several times beat Joe Lewis, probably the most famous martial artist of that era and probably everyone else worth beating at the time.  http://karate-in-english-lewis-wallace.blogspot.com/2008/03/chuck-norris-accurate-record.html.  Personally, I could watch his Ranger Walker the rest of my life and loved some of his B movies. His fight scene with Bruce Lee in The Way of the Dragon is one of the greatest I have ever seen. My favorite Norris movies - Firewalker, Lone Wolf McQuade, Code of Silence ,The Hitman, Octagon, Silent Rage and An Eye for an Eye. That's quite a few.

5. Bruce Lee - I didn't know where to put him. He really didn't compete much and it is really hard to tell anything about when he did. I wrote a whole post on his incredible career and abilities (1/21/08 - The Incomparable Bruce Lee).

6. Arnold Schwarzenegger -  I know, he turned out to be a big jerk, and it is hard to call body building a sport, but, if rhythmic gymnastics is one, so is body building. I don't need to review his film career. You know it.

7. Terry Bradshaw - Oy. I hate to include him, because I have trouble calling what he does acting. But, even if it is not heavy lifting, he's been in a few things now including a few years ago, Failure to Launch, and he is not playing himself. Believe it or not, he actually has a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame. Why, I ask? Why? On the other hand, he is the only one to make this blog twice today.

8 & 9 Johnny Weissmuller - You know, Tarzan.  And, while we are at it, Esther Williams - All those movies featuring her swimming. Why? Because she was an actual national swimming champion and people seemed to like it at the time. Unwatchable now, but, lots of things are.

9 &10.  I'm cheating here (it is just a stupid list) giving a tie for four football linemen.  Alex Karras. Okay, so maybe playing Webster's dad in Webster isn't great acting, but it went on for years.  Merlin Olsen. Another great lineman who had a real career, especially on Little House on the Prairie and Father Murphy.  And yet another lineman, Fred Dwyer,  starred in tv's  Hunter. Then there's Rosie Greer.  I can't think offhand of anything he acted in, but I know he did. Can't be worth looking on imdb. Why did so many linemen become actors? Maybe it's like that joke. Question - Where does an 800 lb. gorilla sit? Answer - Anywhere he likes.

Honorable mention to Chuck Connor, who was a real actor, but was also one of the few people to be an NBA (very early on and on a championship team) and Major League Baseball player (but not so good). But, mostly, he was an actor, most famously in The Rifleman. It's my list and I refuse to consider Jabbar, Shaquille O'Neal and Michael Jordan as actors, even if they did, kind of, sort of act. Life isn't fair.

My guys

This is a list of my favorite players in various sport and mostly when I was growing up. Most of them were the best or among the best in their sport, but they happen to be the ones I admired most:

Baseball - I was not that into baseball and once devastated by the Mets defeating the Orioles in 69, which I considered a travesty of a flash in the pan beating one of the greatest teams in sport history, I stopped watching altogether (well, after Baltimore won the next year). But, when young, I was a Hank Aaron guy more than any other. I still consider him the all time home run king, steroids having tainted that record completely. He was so well known for his hitting it was little recognized that he was an exceptional fielder as well, winning 3 Golden Glove awards. There was a time I knew all his stats.  I am not going to argue that Aaron was greater than a lot of hitters. Some of his records are related to incredible longevity. Now that, like championships, counts for something, but it has to be taken into account as well in comparing players. I was a Willie Mays fan too and probably saw him as the best all around player I ever watched, probably even better than Aaron. I preferred Willie's Giants to Aaron's Braves, but, for some reason I can't even explain, identified with Hammering Hank. Perhaps it was the nonchalance he embodied, rather than the ebullience Mays exuded. I also was a big fan of Eddie Matthews, a much less well known home run hitter who played 3d base on the same team as Aaron for a number of years, during which they hit 863 between them over 13 years - still the record for teammates. Aaron hit more, but I bet Matthews hit them further. His power was exceptional. And perhaps it was because he wasn't as revered I found myself rooting for him. That would be typical of me. And, the Robinson boys, Brooks Robinson and Frank Robinson were big favorites of mine. Frank's career is comparable to Aaron's in many ways, if Aaron was slightly better. But, Frank also won a triple crown, one of only three since Mantle won one in 1956. Brooks was not as great a hitter, though he was good enough, but I thought he was the best fielder I ever saw. His 1970 playoffs was the one of the great performances I've ever seen in sports, both in the field and at bat. For pitchers, three stood out for me - Juan Marichel, Fergie Jenkins and Bob Gibson. The first two were great, and they were my favorites, but Gibson was probably the greatest pitcher of the 60s (I can tell you literally nothing about Major League baseball after that other than a handful of names). His 1968 earned run average of 1.12 (that one I did not need to look up) is almost unbelievable. It was as someone had hit 85 home runs in a season.

Basketball - this was the sport I liked to watch the best and the one I felt most competent. I had a lot of favorites, so I will try and keep the list down. Among centers, no doubt I was a Nate Thurmond guy. He was an underdog whenever he faced Chamberlain or Russell and I wanted him to come out on top.  Aside from him, probably Connie Hawkins, whose autobiography Foul I think one of the very best sports biographies I ever read (not that it is really that many). I felt he was among the greatest forwards I ever saw. He played most of his career in the ABA and when the two leagues merged was still very good, but no doubt he had already played his best years. While he was being blackballed by the NBA, which later settled with him, for being mentioned during a point shaving scandal (never charged, indicted, etc.), he was the MVP of the American Basketball League, then a Harlem Globetrotter for 3 years, then the MVP of the ABA for a year, another year was injured a lot, and then finally got into the NBA. He had a great first year, another good one, then some mediocre ones. He played beautifully, sometimes it seems almost magically, in a high flying class with players like David Thompson, Dr. J and Elgin Baylor (this was all pre-Jordan). Although my memories of him are not as fond now as they are for Thurmond and Baylor, I was probably in my youth most impressed by Oscar Robertson, who I thought was the best guard in history up to that time. Arguably, ever, but no one is going to say you are crazy if you put Jerry West or Magic Johnson up there with him. But, he has some claims of his own. He once averaged a triple double for a season - points, rebounds and assists. Most players are happy if they can do that one game in their career. Not Chamberlain or West or Johnson or Bird or Jordan or Kobe or James has ever done it for a season. Nobody. Aside from being one of the top scorers ever, he is arguably the greatest assist man of all time even though Johnson and Stockton have bigger numbers (it is argued they record assists much more liberally these days). They might be better, but they definitely had much better players to pass the ball to most of their career. And, he was the greatest rebounder for a guard in the league, possibly ever, having a higher rebound per game average over his career than even the much taller Johnson. No doubt he could not win a championship until he teamed up with Jabbar for a magical year in '70-'71 when they won the Milwaukee Bucks' only title, but that was because he did not have many top players on his team. The Lakers and Celtics were loaded and won most years. For me, Robertson was basketball's Aaron - incredibly talented, if not the most talented, but something understated about him. But, that doesn't mean he wasn't intense - he was. I love this recollection by NY Knick Dick Barnett: "If you give him a 12-foot shot, he'll work on you until he's got a 10-foot shot. Give him 6, he wants 4. Give him 2 feet and you know what he wants? That's right, man, a layup." My other guys - Dave Bing (poor Dave, a very talented man, became one of Detroit's mayors) and the ever graceful James Worthy. There were much greater players. I just liked them for some reason.

Football - Gale Sayers was my guy. In my humble opinion he was the greatest running back I ever saw. If his career was not ended prematurely, many more might feel the same way. The year he suffered his first big injury, tearing ligaments, he had a 6.2 per carry average. He came back a year later a different man, but still led the league in rushing. A second major injury changed everything and though he continued to try, that was really it. He still has some records, including the highest career kickoff return average. I was not really into his biography I am third when I was young or his tragic friendship with Brian Piccolo, who died of cancer, but it says a lot about him. I was also a Don Maynard fan. I liked his long ball catching feats and his quirky personality (why do I remember he had muttonchop sideburns?) Even though passing/receiving is so much easier these days, given quarterback and receiver protection rules, Maynard still has the longest reception career average for anyone who has caught more than 600 balls. Though I was never a Jet fan, I also liked (the almost unlikeable) defensive end Mark Gastineau. I was impressed by his talent, speed and power, not his personality. I hated the sack dancing though - hated it. I still remember vividly being in a diner with Bear at 3 something in the morning with Gastineau sitting in the booth behind us, trying to defend himself to his then wife, that he wasn't cheating on her. I'm pretty sure it was both politeness and fear that kept us from laughing until they left. Ah, memories. When Lawrence Taylor became a Giant it made me want to watch them. I preferred when the other team had the ball. Steve Young, Jerry Rice and a few other running backs from my youth stir memories too - Leroy Brown, Jim Nance, Floyd Little and Mercury Morris, the last probably my favorite.

Track - I probably have too many favorites here to go through. Historically speaking, I revered Pablo Nurmi from Finland (see my 4/11/07 tribute to him - The Great Paavo Nurmi). Growing up though, I idolized a middle distance runner named Peter Snell from New Zealand and a longer distance runner from Australia named Ron Clarke. Both set a lot of records, especially Clarke who set 12 world records in less than a month and a half in 1965 and I think had 17 overall. Yet, he never won an Olympic Gold Medal. In recognition of his greatness, the legendary Emil Zapotek gave him his 1952 gold medal, writing that it wasn't because of their friendship, but because he deserved it. Snell's career was shorter and more dramatic. He won the 1960 800 meter Olympic Gold medal, then the 800 meter and 1500 meter Olympic gold in 1964, set 5 world records and then shocked everyone by retiring in 1965, saying he had other interests. He later moved to America. In 2003 he became the national (America) orienteering champion for men 65 and older. Not bad. Of sprinters, Michael Johnson (200-400) meters and Lee Evans (400 meters) were my favorites, though some would say 400 meters isn't a sprint. But, the greatest race I ever saw was the Olympic 800 meters in 1972, won by Dave Wottle. I put the video on a prior top ten list (3/25/12). Worth watching it. Keep your eye on him the race through. Wow.

Tennis - I liked Ivan Lendl, even if he could be hard to like. I disliked Connor and McEnroe, and frankly most anyone with a temper. Earlier, when Aussies dominated, I preferred Tony Roche to Rod Laver, though Laver was the best of his time. In more modern times, I preferred Pete Sampras to Andre Agassi and Roger Federer to Rafael Nadal, though I personally like Nadal better. Doesn't everyone?

Hockey - I just never liked hockey. Period. I guess Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretsky.

Boxing - I was only really interest from the 60s through the 80s. But, in those eras - of course, Muhammad Ali. Sugar Ray Leonard is probably my favorite ever. Alexis Arguello I loved for the poetry in his boxing and his gracious personality. Back in the 70s and 80s my favorites were often light heavyweights and welter/middleweights. There were a number of well matched Muslim convert light heavyweights champions - Matthew Saad Muhammad (Maxwell Loach), Eddie Mustafa Muhammad (Eddie Gregory) and Dwight Muhammad Qawi (Dwight Braxton). MSM (now a homeless man I've read) was my favorite among them, but he lost to both of the other two. He also had an incredible match against a fighter known as Yaqui Lopez. Yaqui beat the tar out of him and MSM took it. You couldn't understand how he was still standing. But all of a sudden, MSM turned it around and put together his own beating. It stuck. He actually beat Lopez twice, stopping him both times. But even more so it was the group of outstanding fighters led by Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran and Wilfred Benitez that were so good that every fight between them was outstanding (actually, one exception). Leonard took a championship from Benitez  by a tko in the last seconds of an outstanding fight. Duran beat Leonard once in a dramatic controversial decision (I thought Leonard won, but almost everyone else disagreed) and then a few months later Leonard demolished him in the rematch, when Duran gave up - "No mas." Unfortunately they fought again about 9 years later and Leonard won a boring decision they both got booed for. But going back to after the first No Mas fight, Leonard beat Hearns in one of the most anticipated fights ever, knocking him out in the 14th round with Hearns ahead on points. He retired and Hearns took a championship from Benitez too (Benitez would die young with severe dementia). A few years later Hearns fought Hagler and Hagler knocked him out in 3 of the most exciting rounds you can imagine. Two years later Leonard fought Hagler and beat him in a controversial decision. Though Hearns lost to Leonard and Hagler, he was an outstanding fighter who won four titles and who knocked out many of his opponents. In a sense, he was a human Alydar who had the misfortune to fight in the era of two of the greatest fighters of all time. He actually fought Leonard a second time in '89 and it was called a draw. But, much later on, Leonard admitted Hearns should have won. I don't know that it mattered with both men past their primes.

Other boxing memories. The pugilistic poetry of Alexis Arguello. His two heart breaking losses to the lesser boxer but physically superior Aaron Pryor.  One of the greatest fighters I've ever seen, a young featherweight named Salvador Sánchez knocking out another incredibly exciting fighter with the great name of Danny Little Red Lopez. Sánchez later died in an automobile accident. Too bad for general reasons, but also because he probably was also one of the all time greats. I have to put his picture here, because it looks like Richard Simmons could kick his ass.

 

Uh oh. Went way too long. Sorry. Old men sport memories are like that.

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Monday, August 19, 2013

Who said it XI


I was sitting in my chair (well, not actually mine, but I sit on it a lot) and I realized I had to do another Who said it? - America's favorite quotation game (counting only those games found on deisenberg.blogspot.com).  I have a lot of fun making these things and in truth they are really always just excuses for me to rummage among my books and notes and talk about things I find interesting.  For the first time it occurred to me that at the end of the questions I could list all the answers summarily in a row for the sake of convenience and then have a talkier discussion section to make me happy. I can't fix the spacing between the first and second questions and am tired of trying. I'd refer it to my tech department but . . . .

1.    [High official] "When will the Russians be able to build the bomb?
        Oppenheimer "I don't know."

       [High official] "I know."
       Oppenheimer "When?"
       [High official] "Never."
 a. Sen. Goldwater b. Pres. Truman c. Gen. Eisenhower d. Justice Felix Frankfurter






2.         Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.

a. Steven Crane       b. C.S. Lewis       c. Samuel Coleridge       d.  Mary Shelley           

 
3.         For at least I know, with certainty, that a man’s work is nothing but the long journeying to recover, through the detours of art, the two or three simple and great images which first gained access to his heart.

a. Albert Camus       b. Jean Paul Sartre      c. Sigmund Freud       d. Carl Jung

 
4.         The title wise is, for the most part, falsely applied. How can one be a wise man, if he does not know any better how to live than other men?—if he is only more cunning and intellectually subtle? Does Wisdom work in a treadmill? Is there any such thing as wisdom not applied to life?

a. John Greenleaf Whittier  b. Jack LaLanne  c. Louisa May Alcott d. Henry David Thoreau           

5.         Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness -

a. Captain John Smith     b. Abraham      c. St. Paul        d. Captain Sir Richard Burton

 
6.         You will have no need to lead the opposition, for I repeat that there will be no debate, for the reason that the project which has not the fortune to meet your approval, conceived by me, negotiated by me, shall be ratified and executed by me alone, do you comprehend?--by me, who laugh at your opposition.

a. Adolf Hitler to former chancellor Franz von Papen  b. Josef Stalin to Leon Trotsky
c. Thomas Jefferson to John Marshall    d. Napoleon Bonaparte to his brother Lucien

 
7.         [Regarding the federal government coercing South Carolina by force] But if we possessed this power, would it be wise to exercise it under existing circumstances? The object would doubtless be to preserve the Union. War would not only present the most effectual means of destroying it, but would vanish all hope of its peaceable reconstruction. Besides, in the fraternal conflict a vast amount of blood and treasure would be expended, rendering future reconciliation between the States impossible. In the meantime, who can foretell what would be the sufferings and privations of the people during its existence?

a. James Buchanan      b. Abraham Lincoln       c. Robert E. Lee      d. Jefferson Davis

 
8.        The Constitution invests the President with certain important political powers, in the exercise of which he is to use his own discretion, and is accountable only to his country in his political character, and to his own conscience.      

a. Abraham Lincoln      b. Andrew Jackson      c. John Marshall      d. FDR

 
9.         I have announced time and time again  that I will never be guilty of any kind of action that can be interpreted as war until Congress, which has the constitutional authority, says so . . . and I am not going to order any troops into anything that can be interpreted as war until Congress directs it.

a. Harry Truman      b. Dwight Eisenhower      c. Jimmy Carter      d. Barack Obama

 
10.      I, too, am religious; that is, religious deep inside, and I believe that Providence weighs us human beings, and that he who is unable to pass the test of Providence but is destroyed by it has not been destined for greater things.

a. Adolph Hitler       b. Houdini       c. Joan d'Arc      d. Martin Luther King, Jr.

 
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Here's the short answer list: 1-b, 2-b, 3-a, 4-d, 5-c, 6-d, 7-a, 8-c, 9-b, 10-a

1.         [High Official] : "When will the Russians be able to build the bomb?"

            . . . .
 
The answer is Truman. Timing wise it pretty much had to be. But Oppenheimer is by far the more interesting of the two on almost every level for me and I'd rather write about him. After the bomb was dropped, he told Truman that he felt he had blood on his hands. Truman was not amused and reputedly retorted that there was more on his own but that they shouldn't whine about it. He also supposedly made it clear that Oppenheimer was never to get in his office again. His intellect was legendary. He was once invited to give a lecture to a mineral society to which he had written a letter, but whose leaders had no idea until he showed up that he was still a child. He was considered by many other physicists to be one of the greatest geniuses among them in a field you pretty much had to be a genius in to succeed at all, but he was also known to be pretentious and arrogant, although not intentionally unkind. Somehow he managed to supervise the creation of the atomic bomb, never having run anything in his life before - not even his university department. He was also well known for flaws which led to his downfall, including a prediliction for troubled communist women. The character of Sheldon on the television show The Big Bang Theory is clearly at least in part drawn from him. I do think that the conventional wisdom among even scientists that he never really came up with anything new is unfair - he was a theoretician, not an experimenter - and his work in that regard was exceptional, unless the standard set for him is so high that a only revolutionary theory on the level of relativity is required for him to be deemed a success. Professionally, he seemed omni-competent, except on the political level, where he was incapable of combatting the secretive, manipulative and jealous men who destroyed him. But, all this is just scratching the surface. Not sure what it is yet I have to say about him, but that's okay. It'll come.
     
2.         Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.

The use of the word "courage" in the quote led me to use Stephen Crane, whose Red Badge of Courage I actually read and admired when young, but cannot conceive reading again. Ironically, though not as famous for his poetry, he is one of the few poets I like. The quote is not his though. There is no reason that it couldn't have been Coleridge or Mary Shelly, I guess, but neither is particularly associated with the issue of courage. The writer was C. S. Lewis, who interests me more for his non-fiction and some generally sensible thinking than his more famous fantasy fiction to the degree that I have even considered of reading some of his religious works (never quite pulled the trigger though). He was a fierce arguer, loved to debate and some thought a bit of an intellectual bully. And, of course, it doesn't hurt my interest level that he was long a close friend of Tolkien. They did sort of fall out over what some think was a literary dispute involving Tolkien's great dislike of Lewis' Narnia creation. I don't think so.  They remained friends, if not quite the same, until Lewis' end and he was a great supporter of The Lord of the Rings. I think that he and Tolkien understood each others literary preferences and fierceness, and usually they agreed. But, I don't think it is so mysterious as all that.  Tolkien has written to others that it was due to Lewis' coming under the influence of Charles Williams many years earlier (Williams, almost forgotten today, died before either of them) and then his (Lewis') marriage to a divorcee, which disturbed the emotional Tolkien a great deal. Actually, Tolkien died nearly 40 years ago. If anyone but his most wild-eyed fans cares (though there are a lot of us), I'd be surprised.

3.         For at least I know, with certainty, that a man’s work is nothing but the long journeying to recover, through the detours of art, the two or three simple and great images which first gained access to his heart.

It is easy to see how you might think Freud or even more so, Jung, but this quote is from Camus. I loved his fiction when I was young, perhaps though in part because they were mercifully short. I read The Stranger first in high school French class. When I say "I read," I mean that the class read it and I kind of listened. I doubt I could have done so myself, poor high school French student that I was. I might like to try a shot at it now, but there's only so much time. I don't know if his statement quoted here is true for everyone, but I think it is true for me, though perhaps there are more than two or three images to consider. What those are I will save for another day, but I can't help but imagine that for Camus, they were dark ones as he seemed to me drawn to controversy and death. Sartre is the more famous and perhaps the more interesting of the two. I neither understood nor got far with Being and Nothingness but appreciated some of his fiction, particularly his novel Nausea of which I now remember absolutely NOTHING but the title and his play No Exit, of which I most remember the last line. My favorite work by him was actually a longish essay on an artist who I probably would not have otherwise thought much about by the name Tintoretto and to some degree started me on a few years interest in learning about renaissance art.  

 
4.         The title wise is, for the most part, falsely applied. . . . Does Wisdom work in a treadmill? Is there any such thing as wisdom not applied to life?

So, there's a clue there in the word "treadmill" - c'mon, c'mon - but it's a false clue and why would I be quoting Jack LaLanne here anyway? Here's a Lalanne quote from Brainyquote.com - "I only eat fish - no chicken, no turkey, just fish. I get all my protein from fish and egg whites." I don't think so. I do though still remember my mother quoting John Greenleaf Whittier when I was growing up - "'Shoot, if you must, this old gray head, But spare your country's flag,' she said," from his poem Barbara Frietche, recalling a moment from the Civil War which never actually happened, but seems like it should have. I actually prefer a line from Whittier's poem Maud Muller - “Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these, 'It might have been.'”  I have never read Louisa May Alcott and am a little more interested in her unconventional father, Alcott, though only biographically in relation to other transcendantalists.  I've read that his own writings were chaotic, incoherent or unintelligible - something like that. The above quote though is from their friend and sometimes neighbor Thoreau, and I have spent quite a lot of time with him in my life. The older I get the more I realize how much we have in common. I have written about my thoughts on him before a few times (among them, Thoreau meet me - 7/31/08).  One post I've written on him, Death Match: Socrates v. Thoreau - 3/28/10) is the #4 most viewed post I've written, according to Google.  I can't say I really care all that much, but I admit I am curious why some few certain posts attract significantly more attention than the others. For all I know, they are just spam magnets. That would be embarrassing.

5.         Three times I was beaten with rods . . .


The choice is among four travelers, three of whom wrote about it quite a bit.  Abraham you can throw out because if he ever even existed (and I very much doubt it) he left us nothing of his own to read and the quote is in the first person.  Captain John Smith was a great adventurer and character who suffered mightily on his travels and wrote about it in detail.  Sir Richard Burton I have written a bit about here before and I think one of the great men of the 19th century. He dealt with his suffering in very stereotypical English stoical manner, once even surviving a spear through the cheek. If you aren't familiar with him but want to read about someone almost impossibly cool, creative, talented, brave, tough, learned, mischievous and unorthodox, take a look at The Amazing Richard Burton (But not the one you are thinking about) - 3/15/07. The above quote though is from St. Paul, who suffered quite a bit as well. It's from his second letter to the Corinthians and he says it is from him and "brother" Timothy, who was also later made a saint in the eastern church. Paul is so important in our western civilization history and I've spent more time than will ever possibly do me any good looking at the long standing debate over his words in his letter to the Romans on justification by faith (see Eating paninis in the 16th century - free will and justification - 4/10/13).

 
6.         You will have no need to lead the opposition, for I   . . .  laugh at your opposition.

I know someone somewhere is sweating it out hoping this wasn't Jefferson, but of course not. Direct confrontation and overt threats was not at all Jefferson's way as he was the master of of behind the scenes machinations and manipulations, using allies and pawns to weave his webs of deceit. It could easily have been any of the other dictators, but it was Napoleon, mocking his enraged brother who had surprised him in his bath.

 
7.  But if we possessed this power, would it be wise to exercise it under existing circumstances. .   . In the meantime, who can foretell what would be the sufferings and privations of the people during its existence?

Which Civil War era character was so sure that Civil War would forever break the bonds of union? He was hardly alone in making wrong predictions about whether war would come or what would be the outcome. Buchanan was not, by our lights, a very distinguished president. Though he sought compromise, he was undoubtedly on the side of the south in the great debate. And unless you are one of the few today who believe that Lincoln was a tyrant and the union was more important than slavery, that was the wrong side.

 
8.         The Constitution invests the President with certain important political powers, in the exercise of which he is to use his own discretion . . . .

All four of the choices were certainly were convinced of this, but the quote is from the most seminal of all seminal U.S. Supreme Court cases, Marbury v. Madison, which if nothing else had, made Marshall's reputation forever.  Ironically, he was not only the chief justice but also the person who should have been the most essential witness in the case. Even then that should have been seen as THE MOST OBVIOUS CONFLICT IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. But he never seemed to even think about it and made the decision which has steered the course of American politics as much or more than any presidential act. If  you just have to know more about it take a look at One Wacky Case - Marbury v. Madison - 10/29/10.

 
9.         I have announced time and time again  that I will never be guilty of any kind of action that can be interpreted as war until Congress, which has the constitutional authority, says so . . . .

Obama. No, just kidding. How could that be? Truman. Kidding again. There was that "police action"" in Korea. It was Eisenhower. But, despite this nod to congress's supremacy in the war making power, Eisenhower was no stranger to covert actions in which the CIA attempted to take down various regimes and usually succeeded. Wins were in Iran, Guatemala, The Congo and The Dominican Republic and losses in Syria and Indonesia. Certainly many people believe that presidents have inherent power much like stated in 7, above, but, nevertheless, his record makes his above statement look completely hypocritical.

        
10.      I, too, am religious; that is, religious deep inside, and I believe that Providence weighs us human beings. . . .

Houdini? That's just crazy, though I suppose anything is possible.  Doesn't sound like King either. That leaves Joan of Arc and Hitler, either one of whom works. For some unknown reason I like to stick a strange Hitler quote in here pretty much every time. He made many religious references in his speeches, though many probably deliberately deceitful and manipulative. Whether any of it was genuine is hard to say. I usually like to stick a Jefferson quote in these quizzes too, but not today.

 

 








 

 

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I started this blog in September, 2006. Mostly, it is where I can talk about things that interest me, which I otherwise don't get to do all that much, about some remarkable people who should not be forgotten, philosophy and theories (like Don Foster's on who wrote A Visit From St. Nicholas and my own on whether Santa is mostly derived from a Norse god) and analysis of issues that concern me. Often it is about books. I try to quote accurately and to say when I am paraphrasing (more and more). Sometimes I blow the first name of even very famous people, often entertainers. I'm much better at history, but once in a while I see I have written something I later learned was not true. Sometimes I fix them, sometimes not. My worst mistake was writing that Beethoven went blind, when he actually went deaf. Feel free to point out an error. I either leave in the mistake, or, if I clean it up, the comment pointing it out. From time to time I do clean up grammar in old posts as, over time I have become more conventional in my grammar, and I very often write these when I am falling asleep and just make dumb mistakes. It be nice to have an editor, but . . . .