Maybe I spend too much time
commenting on articles I read in the media, but I enjoy it or I wouldn't do it.
Sometimes I spend an hour or more early in the morning doing it when I am
awake, but not quite conscious enough to do anything more responsible. I normally don't save my comments anywhere but
decided to do so for about a month. Not surprisingly, I read the articles that
interest me, so they tend to fall into a few categories like politics, civil
rights, history, science, sometimes sports, and, yeah, the occasional celebrity
article. Even Einstein, if alive today, would be looking at articles that are captioned
The Seven Sexiest TV Actresses. This
post is merely reprinting some of my comments here. It even seems kind of self-indulgent
to me. On the other hand, the main point of this blog is to get to talk about
things that interest me and this is just one more excuse to do exactly that. Of
course, though comments are often badly written and filled with redundancies,
bad grammar and mistakes, at least I fixed my typos here so I look like less of
an idiot than inspection of the originals might reveal. This post is a little
long, but the topics, which at least I think interesting, keeps changing and
the last one is my favorite. My narrative is in bold and the comments themselves
in italics.
I disagree with most of his article. I have been subject to prejudice based on ethnicity, skin color, age and beliefs in my life. I expect most people have. But I also recognize they were rare events and not typical of my life or Americans in general. It is not the 60s anymore. His perspective on Martin-Zimmerman persuades me that he does not think about justice or care what the witnesses say happened, but only the skin color of the two. That's racial prejudice. I thought as he did when it happened by foolishly listening to the media, though I should know better. But as the facts came out and I had the opportunity to watch the trial, I learned the truth was closer to the opposite of what was initially portrayed. Professor Yancy's article does not seem to follow the legacy of MLK, Jr. or Nelson Mandela, who I and most whites I know think of as a heroic. It sounds more like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, who I think poor excuses for leaders because they encourage feelings of victimization and entitlement and teach that we should judge people by their skin color and not the quality of their character. We all know there is still and probably always be prejudice and bias in the world. I am not so foolish as to think I alone have escaped it either. We all have some. But racial prejudice has become rarer and rarer in my lifetime and sadly encouraged by those like the professor who seem to want to hold on to it.
My comment drew an angry retort from someone who obviously disagreed and decided I was a racist:
"It sounds more like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, who I think poor excuses for leaders..."
Blissfully unaware of your own latent prejudices. What makes them "leaders"? Because they are black with a pulpit from which to speak? Who are your leaders... or is that just reserved for the mythical black people among whom you live?
I am pretty sure I responded to him, but can't find it. Oh, well. Below is my comment to an article where a writer dared say that the recently dead poet, Seamus Heaney, wasn't all that good.
I tried to read him once and could not find anything that interested me. Sometimes people become famous because they have little competition or other reasons unrelated to merit. Of course it is subjective, but people are influenced when they learn someone is famous and that may be the reason too. I can't think of a living poet who I consider great these days, but I do not read poetry in general and of course others may disagree. For me there have been very few great poets period.
I see someone below was offended this article came out so close to his death, but, I doubt his family or friends is going to read it or be affected. I would presume they are used to criticism and don't really care. It's not like it was said at his funeral.
Apparently my admission that I generally don't read poetry, that my opinion was subjective was insufficient to this gentleman who took me to task:
And this is what is wrong with the blogosphere - the idea that everyone has the right to an opinion. People have the right to an informed opinion.
By your own admission you don't like poetry and are not familiar with his work, but somehow you can arrive at the conclusion his work has little merit, that the foolish masses read Heaney because he is famous and has no competition.
Idiot.
Why do I enjoy it when a commenter calls me an idiot? I don't know but I think it is because I can't believe how impolite the anonymity of the internet makes some people. I wrote back with a little fire and sarcasm than usual, but even still I always end up feeling sorry for "trolls" and try to make peace.
"And this is what is wrong with the blogosphere - the idea that everyone has the right to an opinion."
That's pretty funny. At least, my good doctor, I hope you were trying to be funny.
What's great about the blogosphere - in my humble opinion - is that it allows everyone a forum for their opinion. I'm sure you recognize that you are writing on a forum for people's opinions. Sure, I suppose some people use it because protected by anonymity they can scold others who do not recognize their self-perceived genius and correctness in all things, but I don't want to jump to the conclusion that this would describe you just because you make a joke.
Maybe what's great about it, is that it allows even those people to comment who don't read carefully. Of course, I do not mean you, but, just in case you missed it - I did not write I do not like poetry. I wrote I did not read it in general. Whether that is still more than someone else, I cannot say, nor do I care. Even experts can be wrong - they are all the time. By the way, the reason I don't read it in general is because I find it's sort of like karaoke. Many try, but few succeed. I admire and sometimes cherish those I think are good at it, whether it is Shakespeare or Ogden Nash.
Here's a suggestion, doctor. Admit your biases and perspective when you write - we all have them. Then you won't have to worry so much about others agreeing with you. You might find it liberating and that you don't have to have the pressure of being "right." But, I may have said too much. Perhaps your opinion is metaphysically correct and I am communicating with a deity or one of the six truly intelligent people in the world without the deference that deserves. If so, I apologize.
In case you don't get the hint, have a nice day and try not to let the fact that we all have opinions bother you so much. This can be a happy place.
Here's a comment I wrote to an article about the bloody Missouri-Kansas conflict before and during The Civil War that let me talk about one of my favorite subjects:
I'd like to say something about Clint Eastwood's The Outlaw Josey Wales, a fictional account of a guerilla fighter who rode with "Bloody Bill" Anderson and refused to surrender after the war. Don't look for too much historical accuracy - it's a movie meant to entertain. Nevertheless, it is remarkable, especially the writing and acting. Though not as well known or celebrated as many other Eastwood films, I have found that many men, at least in my age group (I graduated high school in '76, the year it came out) agree it is our favorite among many great ones. It does depict some of the horror of that time (which we see here in the comments still raises passions) and is meant, as his films often do, to make you question your loyalty to those you have been trained to see as the "good guys." But it is very inspirational. I was not surprised to learn that it is one of the very few films in the western genre selected by the Library of Congress National Film Registry for preservation. There were some great movies that year - Rocky (best film at the Oscars), Taxi Driver, Network and All the President's Men. But Josey Wales is the one I am still watching.
I'm not sure if that is a serious question or if you are making fun of his turning troll into an adjective (maybe some people would say a participle - I really don't want to argue about it). But, if you are serious, by "troll," Mr. Dowdy is referring to a type of commenter on a website who makes nasty comments and which is itself a reference to the Nordic troll, a mythological monster such as used in Tolkien books or comically featured in the movie Shrek. Unfortunately, very often it is just used by those who disagree with someone's else's own viewpoint and therefore read the nastiness into it. If you were just being facetious, and know what he meant, then please don't be a troll and make fun of my gullibility.
Oh, come on. Sports is foremost about loyalty, competition and consequences, not logic or "feel good" sentiments.
If a lineman hits the quarterback after the play is over or a cornerback interferes with a receiver, don't we punish the whole team? We don't wring our hands and say "Waaah! Why should the other players and coaches and team and fans get penalized? We didn't do anything wrong." Yes, we did. We picked the wrong team. In the same way, when a player or middleman does something morally wrong off the field there must a biblical collective retribution on everyone conceivable, from the coaches to the other players who unfortunately, probably joyfully, picked the wrong college to go to when just dumb high school kids. The alumni and general fans get to suffer too because they made the wrong choice, just like when they pick a stock and the CEO of the company buys a vacation home in Bermuda instead of funding the pension. Too bad. It may not be their fault, but it is their cross to bear and the rest of us, spared only by our good fortune or perhaps just better secrecy among co-conspirators, reap the rewards. That's life and the way it has always been. It's why the teams whose players don't get caught blood doping or using steroids get to keep their championships and medals and the ones who do get caught get everyone punished. If sports is going to be based on some metaphysical or legalistic "actual guilt or innocence," we might as well scrap the whole system and instead of instant replays have litigation after every play. That will be fun.
Also, when I read or hear that a sports columnist claims that his position has "evolved" I reach for my remote or mouse. The whole point of a position in sports is that it is immutable. It's the same reason a fan can root for the same team over seven decades even though the team is awful and the players, owners and management have changed dozens of times. We root for the local team whether it's the lion or the gladiator. This is sports, not science or philosophy. It's more like politics. If the guy I want to vote for is accused of wrongdoing, he's innocent. If he's the guy you like, he's guilty. Just so if a touchdown is reviewed. The question is not, did he get his foot in? The question is who are you rooting for? If that isn't so, how come polls show it over and over with just about everything? Do you really not know the opinion ahead of time when you watch Rush Limbaugh or Chris
Matthews? Loyalty determines who is right and wrong, not thinking about it. When I want to know what a commentator thinks about something, I want to know what he thought about it in the 4th grade. And that's it. Whose side are you on, Mr. Doyel?
I'm just kidding about all of the above, but, some of it started to sound right as I wrote it. Scary. But life is weird like that. I generally agree with Mr. Doyel here.
Abideh abidee, th-th-that's all folks!
Last month a writer
on a NY Times column dedicated to philosophy wrote an article about the scary dangers
of seemingly benign neuro-technologies. I found his concern trivial, because we
all know this. I wrote:
In another words, the road to hell is paved
with good intentions. We know. Could you not make the same argument with
anything? Fire? The wheel? Behavior modification techniques? Nuclear energy?
Space exploration? Building a home on the edge of the water? We are not going
to stop developing new technologies and have the capacity in society to make
life better or worse with them. The fears never stop us. Sometimes they make us
cautious. Sometimes too cautious. We know, we know.
Imagine the ability to actually decide what your dreams will be and to remember them when you wake up. Or not to remember them but be changed by the experience as if it happened in real life. It is science fiction now, but hardly seems out of the realm of possibility. It might be made into some wonderful applications, perhaps even allow people to have pseudo-cathartic experiences or learn how to deal with their fears and change their lives. It is also easy to imagine many people never wanting to wake up because life is so much better in their heads than in reality or politicians being blackmailed or pummeled by the media because a download of their dreams is obtained. Doctors might be part of either scenario and it is not hard to think of nightmarish results from evil-doers or do-gooders. We are going to do it anyway.
Imagine the ability to actually decide what your dreams will be and to remember them when you wake up. Or not to remember them but be changed by the experience as if it happened in real life. It is science fiction now, but hardly seems out of the realm of possibility. It might be made into some wonderful applications, perhaps even allow people to have pseudo-cathartic experiences or learn how to deal with their fears and change their lives. It is also easy to imagine many people never wanting to wake up because life is so much better in their heads than in reality or politicians being blackmailed or pummeled by the media because a download of their dreams is obtained. Doctors might be part of either scenario and it is not hard to think of nightmarish results from evil-doers or do-gooders. We are going to do it anyway.
Incidentally, my
comment above about our dreams changing us concerned an actual recent experiment
on rats in which scientists electrically stimulated rat brains to mimic those of
other rats who had gone through certain experiences. By doing this, they were
trying to actually insert phony memories into new rats. And it worked! The new
rats reacted as if they had the previous experiences themselves. Extrapolate
and think about the possibilities for good and evil with that technology.
I comment a lot on technology matters but I'll skip to an
article by a philosopher contemplating whether the Greek God Zeus existed. I
commented:
He either
is trying to be ironic or just feels this is safer than directly making these
points about belief in God in our culture.
In any event I do not accept his equalizing of opposing positions in his no. "2." Not "believing" in something of which we have no evidence is not equivalent to not "disbelieving" it. If someone cannot tell the difference between the two there is probably no reasoning with them. That's just common sense.
Of course, as pointed out in Miracle on 34th Street, faith is believing in things when common sense tells you not to. We should also remember that in that movie the faith Susan was asked to swallow was believing that a little old man was really Santa Claus. I have never suggested that anyone who believes in God as a matter of faith or claims revelation should not do so. That's their choice. But it is not credible proof and those who are reasoning about it should not surrender to it in order to seem open-minded or the like.
Though unnecessary there also happens to be some evidence against belief in Zeus, even if circumstantial. Comparing religions show us that myths are passed from one civilization to another over time and space and adopted as the new culture's own as if it was about their own god or gods. We know this is true of Zeus (Robin Lane Fox's Traveling Heroes is a good place to start). And there are many myths about him, sometimes contradictory. These at least lessen the likelihood that he is based on reality.
In any event I do not accept his equalizing of opposing positions in his no. "2." Not "believing" in something of which we have no evidence is not equivalent to not "disbelieving" it. If someone cannot tell the difference between the two there is probably no reasoning with them. That's just common sense.
Of course, as pointed out in Miracle on 34th Street, faith is believing in things when common sense tells you not to. We should also remember that in that movie the faith Susan was asked to swallow was believing that a little old man was really Santa Claus. I have never suggested that anyone who believes in God as a matter of faith or claims revelation should not do so. That's their choice. But it is not credible proof and those who are reasoning about it should not surrender to it in order to seem open-minded or the like.
Though unnecessary there also happens to be some evidence against belief in Zeus, even if circumstantial. Comparing religions show us that myths are passed from one civilization to another over time and space and adopted as the new culture's own as if it was about their own god or gods. We know this is true of Zeus (Robin Lane Fox's Traveling Heroes is a good place to start). And there are many myths about him, sometimes contradictory. These at least lessen the likelihood that he is based on reality.
One article
included a shot of Jamie Lee Curtis in a bikini and started off with the author
stating that she has never looked better at age 54. I wrote:
She's never
looked better? Stop. The writer misses Jamie Lee's point entirely. She has
looked better - a lot better. But so what. This happens to us all as we age
(Raquel Welch aside). Fact of life. She wanted to stop pretending and keep
acting at the same time. Good for her. We can't be sure her husband feels the
same, as he may have wanted things to remain closer to the same. People won't
like to hear that, as it can be painful for them to accept, but it is also a
fact of life.
I'm
very polite for a commenter, but I still often make other readers very angry. But,
at least one person appreciated that comment and wrote: Ah, a voice of reason. Thanks for your post, David. Being
a mere human, I admit I was gratified. It may be silly, but it's hard not to
be. But, I also enjoy it when someone battles or insults me, as you will see
below. Insults are far more common than praise in my digital world.
In
response to a philosopher who has gotten a lot of reaction by stating in the NY
Times his belief that scientists can now come up with a sort of mind/body
theory of everything with regard to evolution, I was fairly skeptical. This is
a topic I read and think about a lot. I am not sure how much sense the
following comment will make to you who haven't read the article I'm commenting
on, but it concerns some of my thoughts on the limits of science and knowledge:
When I first
learned to count I thought no one had ever reached "infinity" because
they had not tried hard enough. I thought I succeeded when I reached 1000
because I didn't know any higher numbers. Prof. Nagel may be falling into the
same type of trap, if in a far more sophisticated way, by taking "the
limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.” (Schopenhauer).
Not much after my counting to infinity, my mother taught me that Socrates was
the wisest man, because he knew that he knew nothing. That was better.
I admire
thinkers who take a shot at more but who can surrender to some form of "I
don't know." Erwin Schrödinger tries in his Mind and Matter, concluding
that the mind could not cope with the gigantic task of objectifying the outside
world "otherwise than by the simplifying device of excluding itself -
withdrawing from its conceptual creation. Hence the latter does not contain its
creator." He admiringly quotes Charles Sherrington: "Mind . . . is
not a 'thing'. It remains without sensual confirmation and remains without it
forever." As they both knew, others
arrived at this conclusion long before them.
And I admire
those who have shown that "we" progress by passing on what
"works" well enough for now, by building up, often accidentally, bit
by bit, and not by planning or understanding it all in some hopefully
comprehensive, but ultimately wrong way, as if we could count to infinity or
understand mind/matter if only we tried hard enough.
Sometimes articles
generate personal memories like the one above where I tried to count to
infinity. In response to an article by an author (who I never heard of) about
how he likes to put the names of people he knows in his books, I could add my
own experience from the other end of that equation:
Some years back
a friend of mine wrote, among other things, novels in very popular series. I
knew him because he was the brother-in-law of a friend of mine and my client. I
understood why he used his brother-in-law's name in a book, but for some reason
he also used his brother-in-law's friends' names, including my own. Probably
there was no particular reason he did it. I don't know about the others, but he
asked my permission. One of them was even a recurring character, which given
the popularity of the series, was pretty cool. My own character wasn't
recurring or particularly appealing. I don't know why I was even glad he wasn't
killed off, because other than the name, of course it wasn't me. I do remember
teasing my own brother about it, because he was a huge fan of the series and
read all of the books. Gave me fictional bragging rights. Not that it made any
real difference in my life, but it was fun for me and I guess it must have been
fun for the author too or he wouldn't have done it. I still have the book and
once in a blue moon will show one of the two pages my name is on to someone. If
that's my 15 minutes, so be it.
I am happy to see that there is a new contestant in
the cable "news" department as I am really disappointed with that
whole field. In response to Al Jazeera America Promises a More Sober Look at the
News
- I wrote:
One more choice.
Good. I have long stopped watching Fox, MSNBC and CNN for various reasons, but
mostly their bias. Here's what I would like AJ to think about:
1. There is no
reason to have the same few commentators night after night. Nothing wrong with
having well known hosts, but why can't there be several, a different one every
few, or even every night? If I want to watch tv at 8 and it is always someone I
don't like - that's it. Mix it up.
2. I hate it
when commentators on a network won't talk about their internal issues which are
at least as much news as celebrity scandals. The most interesting thing that
ever happened on MSNBC was when Joe Scarborough was at war with Olbermann and
for a little while, by extension, Maddow. But no one would say what was going
on behind the scenes. I can't watch much MSNBC now but I would have watched a
discussion about the behind the scenes wars. As it is, I will have to wait
until Scarborough retires someday.
3. Don't worry
about getting name people as guests. If they are interesting, fine, but some of
them are just known for being known. Put on people who know their field. C-Span
does and that is much more interesting to me.
4. Have not only
a liberal and a conservative in discussions, but also a moderate. There are
lots of them but no network seems to think they make good tv. I do. I would
prefer it.
5. It should not
be Good Morning America. Even on morning shows, stop with the banter.
The following
was a comment to another celebrity article about the actor, Mandy Patinkin. which I thought
gave insufficient praise to one of his characters:
His
Inigo Montoya is one of the officially unrecognized great performances in
movies much like Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday in Tombstone. Average filmgoers know
this, but the "experts" do not seem to. One reason I usually read
filmgoer reviews and not film critic reviews before choosing a movie.
The
following was my comment to an article about how mad people get when others
forget innocently forget to give wedding gifts:
I
don't buy that people forget to give wedding gifts. They may be financial, they
may be personal, but there is generally a reason. Anything is possible, but
realistically how could someone forget with everyone else talking about it and
handing their cards to the couple? It's the same reason we may forget to turn
off the stove but don't forget to close our driver's side door - the door is
right in front of us (presuming in both cases sobriety). I am one of the most
absent-minded people I know, but I would not forget to give a gift at a
wedding. I've both forgotten to bring my checkbook and buy a card and had to go
back for them or give the gift afterwards - but I was acutely aware and
embarrassed. What the article is right about is that people do get angry if
someone does not give a gift. These aren't so much "gifts" as social
obligations and, right or wrong, people expect it.
I've
written here in past months about People v. Zimmerman, which I probably could write about full
time for a year. I read an article by an angry professor who seems to think
that Mr. Martin was a heroic child. My response summarizes my puzzlement and
distain for those who vilify Mr. Z, whose life seems to me to have been
destroyed by the acts of a young thug, a reprehensible media and craven
politicians:I disagree with most of his article. I have been subject to prejudice based on ethnicity, skin color, age and beliefs in my life. I expect most people have. But I also recognize they were rare events and not typical of my life or Americans in general. It is not the 60s anymore. His perspective on Martin-Zimmerman persuades me that he does not think about justice or care what the witnesses say happened, but only the skin color of the two. That's racial prejudice. I thought as he did when it happened by foolishly listening to the media, though I should know better. But as the facts came out and I had the opportunity to watch the trial, I learned the truth was closer to the opposite of what was initially portrayed. Professor Yancy's article does not seem to follow the legacy of MLK, Jr. or Nelson Mandela, who I and most whites I know think of as a heroic. It sounds more like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, who I think poor excuses for leaders because they encourage feelings of victimization and entitlement and teach that we should judge people by their skin color and not the quality of their character. We all know there is still and probably always be prejudice and bias in the world. I am not so foolish as to think I alone have escaped it either. We all have some. But racial prejudice has become rarer and rarer in my lifetime and sadly encouraged by those like the professor who seem to want to hold on to it.
My comment drew an angry retort from someone who obviously disagreed and decided I was a racist:
"It sounds more like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, who I think poor excuses for leaders..."
Blissfully unaware of your own latent prejudices. What makes them "leaders"? Because they are black with a pulpit from which to speak? Who are your leaders... or is that just reserved for the mythical black people among whom you live?
I am pretty sure I responded to him, but can't find it. Oh, well. Below is my comment to an article where a writer dared say that the recently dead poet, Seamus Heaney, wasn't all that good.
I tried to read him once and could not find anything that interested me. Sometimes people become famous because they have little competition or other reasons unrelated to merit. Of course it is subjective, but people are influenced when they learn someone is famous and that may be the reason too. I can't think of a living poet who I consider great these days, but I do not read poetry in general and of course others may disagree. For me there have been very few great poets period.
I see someone below was offended this article came out so close to his death, but, I doubt his family or friends is going to read it or be affected. I would presume they are used to criticism and don't really care. It's not like it was said at his funeral.
Apparently my admission that I generally don't read poetry, that my opinion was subjective was insufficient to this gentleman who took me to task:
And this is what is wrong with the blogosphere - the idea that everyone has the right to an opinion. People have the right to an informed opinion.
By your own admission you don't like poetry and are not familiar with his work, but somehow you can arrive at the conclusion his work has little merit, that the foolish masses read Heaney because he is famous and has no competition.
Idiot.
Why do I enjoy it when a commenter calls me an idiot? I don't know but I think it is because I can't believe how impolite the anonymity of the internet makes some people. I wrote back with a little fire and sarcasm than usual, but even still I always end up feeling sorry for "trolls" and try to make peace.
"And this is what is wrong with the blogosphere - the idea that everyone has the right to an opinion."
That's pretty funny. At least, my good doctor, I hope you were trying to be funny.
What's great about the blogosphere - in my humble opinion - is that it allows everyone a forum for their opinion. I'm sure you recognize that you are writing on a forum for people's opinions. Sure, I suppose some people use it because protected by anonymity they can scold others who do not recognize their self-perceived genius and correctness in all things, but I don't want to jump to the conclusion that this would describe you just because you make a joke.
Maybe what's great about it, is that it allows even those people to comment who don't read carefully. Of course, I do not mean you, but, just in case you missed it - I did not write I do not like poetry. I wrote I did not read it in general. Whether that is still more than someone else, I cannot say, nor do I care. Even experts can be wrong - they are all the time. By the way, the reason I don't read it in general is because I find it's sort of like karaoke. Many try, but few succeed. I admire and sometimes cherish those I think are good at it, whether it is Shakespeare or Ogden Nash.
Here's a suggestion, doctor. Admit your biases and perspective when you write - we all have them. Then you won't have to worry so much about others agreeing with you. You might find it liberating and that you don't have to have the pressure of being "right." But, I may have said too much. Perhaps your opinion is metaphysically correct and I am communicating with a deity or one of the six truly intelligent people in the world without the deference that deserves. If so, I apologize.
In case you don't get the hint, have a nice day and try not to let the fact that we all have opinions bother you so much. This can be a happy place.
That went back
and forth and ended up with him pointed out what I admit could have fairly seemed
like a contradiction in my statements. Unfortunately, these are comments and
you can't put everything you think down or your whole autobiography.
Here's a comment I wrote to an article about the bloody Missouri-Kansas conflict before and during The Civil War that let me talk about one of my favorite subjects:
I'd like to say something about Clint Eastwood's The Outlaw Josey Wales, a fictional account of a guerilla fighter who rode with "Bloody Bill" Anderson and refused to surrender after the war. Don't look for too much historical accuracy - it's a movie meant to entertain. Nevertheless, it is remarkable, especially the writing and acting. Though not as well known or celebrated as many other Eastwood films, I have found that many men, at least in my age group (I graduated high school in '76, the year it came out) agree it is our favorite among many great ones. It does depict some of the horror of that time (which we see here in the comments still raises passions) and is meant, as his films often do, to make you question your loyalty to those you have been trained to see as the "good guys." But it is very inspirational. I was not surprised to learn that it is one of the very few films in the western genre selected by the Library of Congress National Film Registry for preservation. There were some great movies that year - Rocky (best film at the Oscars), Taxi Driver, Network and All the President's Men. But Josey Wales is the one I am still watching.
Here's
me trying to be helpful when a prayerful woman was insulted for bringing God
into a discussion on Syria. She wrote:
I guess this is all in God's hands. His will be done...
Peace and Joy as we Franciscans say, but I guess the people in the middle east
are not having much of either at this time.
To which someone replied: Trolling idiot
She was perplexed: what is "Trolling Idiot"?
At
that point I stepped in as a veritable doctor of the internet, which is kind of
funny, because I am so digitally challenged, it's not funny:
I'm not sure if that is a serious question or if you are making fun of his turning troll into an adjective (maybe some people would say a participle - I really don't want to argue about it). But, if you are serious, by "troll," Mr. Dowdy is referring to a type of commenter on a website who makes nasty comments and which is itself a reference to the Nordic troll, a mythological monster such as used in Tolkien books or comically featured in the movie Shrek. Unfortunately, very often it is just used by those who disagree with someone's else's own viewpoint and therefore read the nastiness into it. If you were just being facetious, and know what he meant, then please don't be a troll and make fun of my gullibility.
Apparently, she was serious and thanked me for helping
her. My mitzvah for the day. I can't help but mention Tolkien a lot in
comments, even where it is a stretch, you know, like the way some people can't
help but bring up their love interest in a conversation no matter how remote.
The following was to an article on Syria prior to the recent Russian
intervention.
This from a famous Catholic writer:
‘I wish it need not have happened in my time,' said
Frodo.
‘So do I,’ said Gandalf, ‘and so do all who live to see
such times. But that is not for them to
decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.’
decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.’
and
'...Many that live deserve death. And some that die
deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out
death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. . . .'
And from this much earlier Christian (Luke):
". . . From everyone who has been given much, much
will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more
will be asked."
I don't mean to imply there's any practical direction in
the above quotes, just that sometimes we have to do what we (here, in reality,
our leaders) think is right and hope that it is for the better. I personally do
not believe we should intervene at this time despite Pres. Obama's red line
although I would not mind financial and moral support to any participants we
are reasonably sure are looking for a secular government based on western
values - I just don't know that this exists there at all. But, it looks like we
will intervene. Whatever we determine, there is no way to know whether it would
turn out more to our liking if we take a different direction.
I
was thinking someone would reply that I was being too flippant bringing a
fictional writer into a discussion about war horrors, but that's not what made
someone mad. It was apparently my liking western values which offended a reader
who asked me "What evidence do you have that "western" values
are superior to the values of another culture," suggested I was being
chauvinistic and that "we should have been taking lessons from our Eastern brothers and
sisters, who, incidentally, live where Jesus walked and where the Church took
its first steps." Poor man gave me an excuse to pontificate on one of my
favorite topics:
Thank you for your reply, . . . . I base it on the
following political values and aspirations which are more present in the west
and less present in the east at this time in history: freedom of conscience,
freedom of expression, rule of law, democracy limited by individual rights,
private property and the peaceful transfer of power, tolerance for ethnic and
religious differences, among others.
I'm not suggesting these developed without input from the east, nor that we do
it perfectly or they are completely devoid of worthy values. Many values are
shared too. But, as imperfect as our laws and values are, where in the east to
you think the people and government aspire to better - China? Iran? Mozambique?
Are you not convinced by how many people have wanted to come here as opposed to
Russia?
You can argue all you want that someone raised in Syria might be as decent or
more decent than someone in America. You can argue all you want we are
imperfect and that our people are frequently dishonest or selfish, and that
life here is also filled with fraud or corruption. Or that our own history is
strewn with unworthy acts and sentiments. I won't argue with you. We have no
utopia. It took a long time to get where we are. Centuries. And I'm talking in
generalities, it being virtually impossible when discussing politics,
philosophy or comparative cultures to do otherwise.
But, who are you comparing us to? Take a look at Pew
polls showing how many in Sharia countries think it is okay to stone a woman to
death because she is an adulterer (presuming, laughably, a fair trial). Go to
D.C. and say anything you like about the president (short of a threat) and you
will be fine. Try it in Russia and China. Try it in Syria or Egypt or so many
other countries where these values aren't treasured. I'll take ours. Thanks. If
I couldn't live in America, then I'd want to live in western Europe, though
they have their problems too. If I couldn't live there then Japan or Israel
where they have adapted our values too.
I always accept that sometimes in replying commenters
talk at cross-purposes. If you meant something different than I suggest in
making my reply, please let me know.
He gave up or wandered off, but another commenter, offended
apparently by my mentioning Israel and Iran shot back:
If you were Palestinian Arab how do you think you would
fare in Israel? Do you have any concept of how many people Israel has in its
jails, many held without charge or trial for tens of years.
I would much rather live in Iran than almost anywhere,
including the United States. There is more to Iran than supposedly stoning
people -- can you cite as many instances of this occurring as shootings occur
in US cities with regularity? Have you ever researched street crime in Iran?
Did the Pew poll also mention that it is very common in Iranian-style Islam for
victims and perpetrators of a crime to negotiate the punishment? For example, if
a man kills a father or brother, he will not be imprisoned -- that helps no
one; he will be required to provide for the family of that man for the rest of
his life. That is far more common than stoning.
Shari
law struggles to apply an Islamic sense of fairness -- and avoidance of usury
-- to economic and financial transactions. It results in a less robust flow of
capital, but far less of a gap between rich and poor, primarily because of
Iran's determination not to submit to the sort of central banking/ Federal
Reserve system that has plunged so many nations, and the US, into debt from
which it can only extract itself by waging war or cheating the creditor.
I
live in the suburbs of DC. I was arrested in Washington DC for protesting against
George W. Bush's call for war. Please don't try to tell me about freedom of expression.
Holocaustism
is a state religion in the United States. In western Europe it is a crime to
write or speak anything other than the declared narrative about the wars in
Germany; in the US, it is not a crime per se, but an office in the US State
Department monitors speech and communication for "antisemitism,"
including the communication of FACTS about Jewish activities in the wars in
Europe, that are contrary to the enforced dogma. Americans do NOT have freedom
of expression-speech regarding the state-enforced dogma of holocaustism.
See how I make
friends? What do you say to someone who would prefer to live in Iran? Not sure
why I bothered, but I decided to lecture him:
I am sorry
for your experiences. You can go live in Iran. I am sure that they would make
much of your perspective. I am sure you read my comment as suggesting we live
in a utopia, based on your response. No such suggestion is made. There are no
utopias. The U.S. and Israel and western European countries all have faults and
have committed terrible acts. Feel free to recount them. It is a relative
thing. Go live in Iran if you like. You can vote for whoever you want, provided
of course, that it is a candidate already selected for you by the only real
power. Go practice any religion you want there, provided you don't insult Islam
(here, Christianity, the dominant religion, can be insulted freely), which you
might do by any comment not in accord with doctrine and be prepared to be a
secondary citizen if you dissent in any way. Being Jewish is fun in Iran. Sure.
I know many Iranian Jews who fled here to be free, but you might know better.
Say whatever you like there, as you have done here, but prepared to spend your
life in jail -- and, if you are, it will not be a mistake and the government
subject to a law suit as it was here when the police grossly overreacted for
political protests. Really, there are so many differences and the countries you
decry so superior politically, that I realize that I could not possibly
persuade you if you believe what you write. By the way, you just wrote whatever
you liked about what you term "the state-enforced dogma of
holocaustism" and no one will bother you or suggest you can't believe it
here. Try going to Iran and publicly stating that you don't believe Mohammad
leaped to heaven. If you don't believe a holocaust happened, perhaps you don't
know any survivors. I do. And while I agree with anyone who might believe that
we have a social taboo about talking about the holocaust, we are at least free
to say what we like. I could go on, but Iran awaits you. Or any country where
you get to live under the "fairness" of sharia law, provided you are
a male Muslim, of course. But, I'd rather you stay, study American history with
all its faults and challenges and realize the gift you have. It could happen.
I guess some people would find that anything but fun, but
I do. But, often I'm not serious at all when I comment and am just enjoying poking
the bear. I will leave this over-long, self-absorbed post with something more
light hearted. A sports writer, Gregg Doyal, wrote an article suggesting that
schools should not be punished when a player acts against the rules without
their knowledge, to which I commented (although I'm not sure it actually
posted, such are my internet skills):
Oh, come on. Sports is foremost about loyalty, competition and consequences, not logic or "feel good" sentiments.
If a lineman hits the quarterback after the play is over or a cornerback interferes with a receiver, don't we punish the whole team? We don't wring our hands and say "Waaah! Why should the other players and coaches and team and fans get penalized? We didn't do anything wrong." Yes, we did. We picked the wrong team. In the same way, when a player or middleman does something morally wrong off the field there must a biblical collective retribution on everyone conceivable, from the coaches to the other players who unfortunately, probably joyfully, picked the wrong college to go to when just dumb high school kids. The alumni and general fans get to suffer too because they made the wrong choice, just like when they pick a stock and the CEO of the company buys a vacation home in Bermuda instead of funding the pension. Too bad. It may not be their fault, but it is their cross to bear and the rest of us, spared only by our good fortune or perhaps just better secrecy among co-conspirators, reap the rewards. That's life and the way it has always been. It's why the teams whose players don't get caught blood doping or using steroids get to keep their championships and medals and the ones who do get caught get everyone punished. If sports is going to be based on some metaphysical or legalistic "actual guilt or innocence," we might as well scrap the whole system and instead of instant replays have litigation after every play. That will be fun.
Also, when I read or hear that a sports columnist claims that his position has "evolved" I reach for my remote or mouse. The whole point of a position in sports is that it is immutable. It's the same reason a fan can root for the same team over seven decades even though the team is awful and the players, owners and management have changed dozens of times. We root for the local team whether it's the lion or the gladiator. This is sports, not science or philosophy. It's more like politics. If the guy I want to vote for is accused of wrongdoing, he's innocent. If he's the guy you like, he's guilty. Just so if a touchdown is reviewed. The question is not, did he get his foot in? The question is who are you rooting for? If that isn't so, how come polls show it over and over with just about everything? Do you really not know the opinion ahead of time when you watch Rush Limbaugh or Chris
Matthews? Loyalty determines who is right and wrong, not thinking about it. When I want to know what a commentator thinks about something, I want to know what he thought about it in the 4th grade. And that's it. Whose side are you on, Mr. Doyel?
I'm just kidding about all of the above, but, some of it started to sound right as I wrote it. Scary. But life is weird like that. I generally agree with Mr. Doyel here.
Abideh abidee, th-th-that's all folks!
Only an out of work bum would have this much time to spend in the blogosphere. Oh, wait, you are an out of work..... I get it.
ReplyDeleteBy the by, your comments about Seamus Heaney really WERE idiotic. Though the blowhard that responded to you deserved a robust verbal smack in the kisser.
I am not out of work. I am pacing myself. But part of me wishes I were out of work every day. Thinking hurts.
ReplyDeleteAs for my comments on Mr. Heaney, you could be right, but you are taking a strong stand. But, I didn't say he wasn't good, just not great (agreeing with the author). Not that I've read a lot of his stuff, but what I read can't compare to Longfellow or Frost or Ogden Nash. Wordsmiths put me to sleep.
By the way - what the hell happened that caused all that weird highlighting on this post? The digital skills of a silverback playing the guitar, I tell ya.